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DickTracy1953	Remington U.S. Model of 1917	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2197 (06/27/09 05:47 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Today I picked up a Remington U.S. Model of 1917 (serial number: 3331XX). It is in great shape. The finish is blue, Winchester marked bolt, great bore (USGI guage: 2), and a RA barrel dated 05-18. Does anyone know the date of manufacture and if the barrel could be original to the rifle. I hope I did not pay too much for this sweetheart ($400.00).
gpschmidt		#1	[-]
Posts: 642 (06/27/09 06:09 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That didn't happen to be the one at Gander Mt. in Kalamazoo, would it? Greg
DickTracy1953		#2	[-]
Posts: 2198 (06/27/09 06:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	No, I picked it up early Saturday morning at the Delta Plex Gun Show during setup.
gpschmidt		#3	[-]
Posts: 643 (06/27/09 07:10 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ah! I saw one last weekend at Gander. Greg
Rifleman2		#4	[-]
Posts: 173 (06/27/09 07:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The source I have says,July 1918.
gil		#5	[-]
Posts: 909 (06/28/09 01:11 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	that is a decent price, particularly since it is blued and not parkerized. what make stock does it have? I prefer shooting the 1917 over the 03 and 03a3 personally. If we hadn't butchered so many of them when we were kids in the 60's there would be more of them around. look over on the gunboards forums on the us rifle forum at the 1917 Reminton postin and you will see what a new one looks like. gil
DickTracy1953		#6	[-]
Posts: 2199 (06/28/09 04:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rifleman2.. Thanks for the information as to the manufacturing date. I believe that it is a Remington stock. How do you tell. One of my friends just says that it is... he seems to be an expert.
Colin		#7	[-]
Posts: 2012 (06/29/09 03:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dick Tracy: Look at the front of the stock, like you're looking down the muzzle. There should be a letter there; W for Winchester, R for Remington or E for Eddystone.
DickTracy1953		#8	[-]
Posts: 2201 (06/29/09 05:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dah, now how did I miss that, my Remington stock is stamped with an "R" whereas my Edystone stock is stamped with an "E". Thanks for the identification tip. My Remington stock is struck also with "OGEK". I nicknamed my Edystone rifle: "Stone Thrower". I am leaning towards endearing my Remington with the name: "Elmira". Okay, now let's talk about the bolts. The bolt in my Remington rifle is marked with a "W" but my Edystone bolt is marked with a "R", so what is going on in that regard. Somehow maybe these were switched at birth. Last Edited By: DickTracy1953 06/29/09 05:51 PM. Edited 1 times.
Rick the Librarian		#9	[-]
Posts: 4692 (06/29/09 06:51 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nothing mysterious about the bolts. During a previous rebuild, the bolts were changed. The rifle would have had an R-marked bolt at "birth".
DickTracy1953		#10	[-]
Posts: 2202 (06/29/09 07:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well this rifle held up better than the sling. It was marked Boyd 1942. I made a present of the sling to my friend because it broke apart in two places where it was hooked. He thinks that "OGEK" was stamped in the stock by the famous gun writer Elmer Keith.
Colin		#11	[-]
Posts: 2014 (07/04/09 11:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Elmer Keith did work at the Ogden, Utah facility, inspecting weapons. So did somebody named Krause. One used OGEK with a box around it, one used the letters without the box, but I can't find my reference on who used which. Perhaps someone more knowledgable than I can comment.
DickTracy1953		#12	[-]
Posts: 2204 (07/05/09 10:22 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mine is the OGEK without the box. If this website contains correct information then the inspector was: Ed Klouser. http://m1903.com/isstamps.htm
hognfrog	Help with Value of Winnie 1917 before Thursday.	#13	[-]
Posts: 49 (07/07/09 07:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Need a little help on this one. I have a line on a Winchester 1917, Serial # 596XX (I think it was only 5 digets) front of stock is "E" marked, barrel is "E" over flaming bomb and 12-17. Bolt I beleive was marked "E". Stock(at nose cap, no other markings seen) has some dings and dents. finish is a dull park. Has what looks like original sling, cracked and well worn but intact. Barrel looks terrible, you can see lands and grooves but seems full of "debris" does not look like pitting. Crown of barrel looks good I did not guage the barrel. This person is asking $400 but has hinted at letting it go for around $350. There is another potential buyer showing up Thursday afternoon so I need to decide. So the question is: Is a Winchester receiver with a "E" marked barrel full of debris(that may or may NOT clean up), with a E marked stock worth the $350-$400? Last Edited By: hognfrog 07/07/09 08:14 PM. Edited 2 times.
bob30829		#14	[-]
Posts: 7 (07/07/09 08:17 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	in elmers book hell i was there he said his mark was in a box. he also stated that all he inspected went to the pacific. i have a 03-a3 and a 03a1 inspected by him. hognfrog it all depends on how bad you want a ww2 rebuild. i remember when i could not even sell nice matching 17's nobody wanted them 03's were a differint story.
eb in oregon		#15	[-]
Posts: 959 (07/08/09 05:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If it's complete and in good condition, I'd give him the $350 and run away, fast. The last rifle I bought with a "sewer pipe" for a barrel cleaned up as new. This just may do the same. eb "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776 Last Edited By: eb in oregon 07/08/09 05:14 PM. Edited 1 times.