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beanstrung	Soviet SKS I got at last local gun-show	Lead	[-]
Posts: 5321 (07/09/09 04:47 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Somebody tell me about this, because this is the first Soviet SKS that I've ever owned. It looks to me to be all-original and all-matching, although some parts are electropenciled with the s/n. The bore is shiny & virtually new. Is the beveled muzzle-ring on the bayonet correct, or has Bubba had his file on it? The guy selling it was asking $280, and I only had $200 with me, so I gave him the $200, and had him hold it for me while I went and found an ATM to get $80 more. -Bean --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
eb in oregon		#1	[-]
Posts: 964 (07/09/09 04:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Looks like a Soviet arsenal re-build to me. The bold carrier is still in the white (I'm told that re-builds from importers blacken'ed the bolt carrier) and the re-used stock is typical of a re-arsenal, as is the electro-penciled parts. The angle on the bayonet is so that the bayonet snaps easily over the muzzle. Came that way. eb "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776
NC Cruffler		#2	[-]
Posts: 576 (07/09/09 05:38 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	As usual, Eric is right. Fair price. I'd have bought it if I wanted another one. BTW- a Russian is the only SKS I ever got my finger stuck in the cleaning tool port. Dave Dave Green, NRA Life Member since 1973
wsmrto		#3	[-]
Posts: 482 (07/10/09 12:21 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bean: That is a very nice Tula refurb at an exceptional low price. Any of the nice Russki SKS's are now worth at least $400. By the NC Cruffler, read my reply on the Russian SKS thread just next too this one.. You might remimber the 2 Albi's and Romanian SKS's. I sure do miss them.
beanstrung		#4	[-]
Posts: 5324 (07/10/09 06:33 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks guys, my next question is, is the bayonet supposed to be blued (or blacked)? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
RichieRich3902		#5	[-]
Posts: 1342 (07/10/09 02:57 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The bayonet was originally in the white, but some were blackened alont with the bolt when they were rebuilt. Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. -William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
RLMbassist		#6	[-]
Posts: 51 (07/11/09 07:03 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think you got a good deal on a nice Tula. I saw them for more than that years ago.
HoosierDaddy		#7	[-]
Posts: 5466 (07/11/09 09:12 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yes be sure to stick your finger in the cleaning tool port. There may be some extra parts in it. Ash Iron Construction
ThePitbullofLove		#8	[-]
Posts: 6602 (07/11/09 11:05 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ouch...that mouse trap/trap door got me once or twice too. AK's have the same infernal device.. Life is the crummiest book I ever read, there isn't a hook; Just a lot of cheap shots, pictures to shock, and characters an amateur would never dream up...
ParallaxBill		#9	[-]
Posts: 16334 (07/12/09 07:57 AM) Owner/operator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Me too. Some have extremely strong springs. I got my big ol fat finger in mine and just about panicked when it didn't come out like it should. I could imagine going to the emergency room with an SKS attached to my bloody finger. Parallax *Lee Enfield Collector's Society member #3* *Mauser Shooter's Association member #17* Forum administrator for the Carolina C&R Shooting & Collecting Club,
m1 talker		#10	[-]
Posts: 6873 (07/12/09 08:25 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The trick to avoid getting your finger caught in the buttplate traphole is to always come into it from the top, not the bottom. That way, your hand is palm side down. Coming into it from the bottom of the stock results in your palm being up and the way the trapdoor opens, will guarantee it being caught in the door. Bill- that would be nothing to go to emergency medical services with an SKS stuck on your hand, as compared to what I once saw at a gun show. A young guy was trying to impress his girl friend and he came across a Garand laying on one of the tables. Yeah, he gave her a lasting impression, I am sure. The Garand was laying there with the action open like a baited mouse trap waiting for a victim to come along. The guy goes to pick it up and when he does, he inserts his thumb into the magazine well and obviously pushed down on the follower. The next thing everyone heard was a loud screaming and everybody looked in his direction to see his arm raised above his hand and he was trying to shake off the Garand, but it held on tight. So there was this Garand flopping all over the place above he crowds heads. A guy standing next to him grabbed the Garand and pulled the action open and released his thumb. No blood loss, as the skin was not broken, but you could see some very definate darkening of his thumb from the bruises. I bet that hurt for several days! Curt
beanstrung		#11	[-]
Posts: 5332 (07/12/09 08:51 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Actually, I use an M16 cleaning brush as a tool to open the door, therefore keeping fingers out of the equation! It's not shown in the photos, but the original cleaning kit was inside the storage compartment. For $280, I feel like VIS35's blind hog...! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
WVchuck		#12	[-]
Posts: 12242 (07/12/09 10:25 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You did well on the SKS Bean!! That one is a solid keeper. I had one with a nearly black looking bayonet at one time. The bolt was in the white. I've seen some with the bolts painted too. Those looked the worse (IMO) as far as the refurbs go. I got my finger stuck in the SKS hole once, several years ago when I got my first SKS. Fortunately, I had a screwdriver handy and removed the buttplate to get my finger out of there. No blood, no fuss. I just sat the rifle on it's muzzle to get the weight off of my index finger and unscrewed the buttplate screws as fast as I could. Having the cleaning kit pressing up on the finger while the door was sprung shut in between the 1st and second joint was incredibly uncomfortable to say the least. I learned that "How to remove the cleaning kit from an SKS/AK" lesson with only one finger trap event. I spent the afternoon studying that design and can now get in & out of there without getting caught! If you really want a suprise of the bloody kind, work the action on a Hakim or Lljungman with the safety off and push down on the follower to close the action back.
ThePitbullofLove		#13	[-]
Posts: 6603 (07/12/09 01:29 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Here's my Russian SKS. It was actually my first rifle and I bought her about 1996 or so. Right at $75, IIRC. I can't remember the last time I shot it...or any of my SKS's, but they've always been reliable. Life is the crummiest book I ever read, there isn't a hook; Just a lot of cheap shots, pictures to shock, and characters an amateur would never dream up...
yv4me		#14	[-]
Posts: 234 (07/13/09 10:53 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I found a 1951 Tula locally in January. I had to pay $400 but I'd never seen anything but Yugos around here. I have a M59 and it really wanted a friend! The Tula appears to have escaped the rearsenal. What ever happened to simonov.net? They used to have a guide on rearsenal characteristics.
ledman096.curioandrelicfi...		#15	[-]
Posts: 1 (07/28/09 07:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, 280 for a Rooskie refurb is pretty good now, it was a fair price. Enjoy! here is my 53 Tula, all matching, I got this 5 years ago for $300, the stock got me, I had to have it! Last Edited By: ledman096 07/28/09 07:43 PM. Edited 2 times.
dangson		#16	[-]
Posts: 372 (08/13/09 06:04 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I just saw a really nice one for $400. I thought that was steep and I was going to post here but you all answered my question. I don't have that kind of money but I wonder how much less he would take. I almost bought one about 1 or 2 years ago for $250 but it wasn't this nice. I didn't realize they had increased that much. Nice rifle, nice price.
WVchuck		#17	[-]
Posts: 12374 (08/13/09 08:58 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Here's two of three Russkies: 1950 with spring loaded firing pin and funky gas block: And the 54 Tula!! I'll have to dig out the last one and get pictures of it one day. Here's one I found from way back in 2007! It's a 54 Izzy!! Last Edited By: WVchuck 08/13/09 09:05 PM. Edited 2 times.
m1 talker		#18	[-]
Posts: 6909 (08/16/09 11:17 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nice looking SKS rifles! But I have had a question concerning the Russian SKS rifles for many years and finally remembered it, so I will ask it now before I forget it again. Is there any real difference between the Tula an Izzy ones, quality wise or whatever? The reason I ask is back when these things were popular at gun shows about fifteen years ago, gun show folklore had it that the Tula rifles were better fitted, thus they commanded a premium price over the Izzy rifles of the same overall condition. I have three Russian SKS rifles in my collection and they are all Tulas, so I have nothing to actually take down and compare. But I was wondering if there was any truth to that rumor, or was it just gun show bovine effluent. Curt
WVchuck		#19	[-]
Posts: 12378 (08/18/09 05:23 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think the Izhvesk arsenal SKS's are less common in general. At least that was what I was told in regard to the 54 that I picked up here a few years ago. To put them side by side, the 54 Tula doesn't appear to be any better built/finished than the Izzy. But that's just two at random of bajillions of them
m1 talker		#20	[-]
Posts: 6916 (08/18/09 08:08 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I agree, WVchuck. I have actually seen very few Izhvesk SKS rifles and I bet that I see ten Tulas at least to each one of the Izzy's. Probably the ratio is even considerably higher than that. But you hear so much gun lore stories at gun shows and such where the seller states that one was made better than the others simply because that is what he was selling. I bet that if he had a table full of Izhvesk rifles, what he would say is just the opposite. But it is one of those things that keeps this hobby interesting, with trying to collect them all and such. Curt