South Korea to sell "war surplus" arms?

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Ed Novak	South Korea to sell "war surplus" arms?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2127 (09/27/09 04:31 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None BBC says South Korea to sell "war surplus" arms. Wonder how many MNs may be in the "sale" to "U.S. collectors" anticipated by the BBC. NRA Endowment member LECS #2
m1 talker		#1	[-]
Posts: 6992 (09/27/09 05:52 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	About how many Mosin Nagant rifles did the South Koreans have? I was always under the impression that they had mostly ex-USGI weapons. Curt
zeebill		#2	[-]
Posts: 3736 (09/28/09 11:07 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah I am under the impression that most of their stuff was Ex-GI stuff too. I have seen Korean M1 Garands at Dunhams and they were flat used up and would have required much work to make marginally usable. I even questioned the manager about the stores liability issues selling things in the condition they were in. I may have killed them for the moment because they haven't had any since then. They were really nasty and wellworn and I would have probably paled at the muzzle erosion if I had guages with me for I could literally see the wear! I think the M1 carbines that Dunhams had were from Israel and they were in poor shape too. Nothing in either of those that was worth buying or trying to shoot so I don't hold much hope for these. Remember now you are getting opinion from a country (BBC) that basically gutted their nation of privately owned weapons and has no liking for the 2nd amendment rights we so cherish. Their liable to be jumping at what is in reality a bunch of useless worn-out weapons and not worth collecting or shooting anymore. Bill
Ed Novak		#3	[-]
Posts: 2128 (09/28/09 01:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was thinking of the possibility of MN captures; but then, the South Koreans likely would not have "saved" any of them. Someone, somewhere speculated that the M-1 carbines would remain in SK for their own use. Bill, I appreciate your review of what you found in the M1 Garands. There is nothing sadder than a junk-quality milsurp. NRA Endowment member LECS #2
ME109	Garand Gold	#4	[-]
Posts: 11 (09/28/09 08:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20090925.aspx
Ken Shabby		#5	[-]
Posts: 506 (09/30/09 11:37 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe most or all of them will make it here. A junky Garand is still a Garand, good at least for parts to restore other rifles, as a wall hangar or a nice reenactment piece. I'll never complain about any importation of rifles, regardless of condition! I've surfed around looking for the original link for the BBC article and nobody seems to have posted. But the scuttlebutt seems to indicate that pricing will be north of $800 - which sounds like a lot compared to the CMP. But I bet people will buy them. Last Edited By: Ken Shabby 09/30/09 11:43 AM. Edited 1 times.
Bear43		#6	[-]
Posts: 597 (09/30/09 12:57 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ken, here's the link for the article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8271041.stm
Ken Shabby		#7	[-]
Posts: 507 (09/30/09 01:30 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ah, thanks! Someone should email the correspondent and send him a link to the Box O' Truth section where they debunk the M1 Carbine + frozen clothing myth. Last Edited By: Ken Shabby 09/30/09 01:35 PM. Edited 1 times.
Chief Oshkosh	North Korea	#8	[-]
Posts: 1072 (10/01/09 09:48 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It was North Korea that used Mosin Nagants. Given to them by the Soviets that drove the Japanese out Manchuria and Korea in late summer 1945. They, as well as the Chinese, also had tons of captured Japanese weapons.
Chief Oshkosh	more nonsense	#9	[-]
Posts: 1073 (10/01/09 09:57 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	M1 carbine using a 7.62 M91-30 or M 44 round (from the article)? I don't think so. They were chambered for .30. The latter-arrived M14 used 7.62 x 51 NATO but the South Koreans probably used the Garand going into the 1960's until the Kalashnikov arrived on the scene in North Korea.
Ken Shabby		#10	[-]
Posts: 510 (10/01/09 03:12 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm sure that the South Koreans and U.N. forces captured large numbers of North Korean small arms during the war, but I'm also pretty sure they would have been disposed of relatively quickly. Captured weapons are usually gotten rid of once a war is over, unless (as in the case of Finland in the Winter/Continuation Wars) both sides are using the same weapons.
m1 talker		#11	[-]
Posts: 7010 (10/01/09 03:58 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	With some of those third world countries and those emerging in to the world, money is everything. They may hang on to stuff for many years waiting to sell it off to other countries to get some money for it. Selling off obsolete weaponry is nothing new nowadays. Just look at Russia, Greece, Finland, and a whole slew of countries. They know they are sitting on a gold mine just waiting for the time to cash in on it. Curt
Ken Shabby		#12	[-]
Posts: 511 (10/01/09 04:55 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Russia in particular could make millions if they put in some effort...if we are lucky, certain legal exceptions in treaties and laws might eventually be made in favor of collectors and the SVT-40 may yet come to the states some day, among other weapons. China probably has a bewildering number of surplus guns sitting in storage now, though the chances of them coming here are slimmer than in the case of Russia, but who knows?