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Bryan 45	Empire Arms latest email	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2592 (10/16/09 06:09 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Wow. Just. Wow. Where does he find this stuff?
RLMbassist		#1	[-]
Posts: 190 (10/16/09 07:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I thought the same thing; he must have some great connections. Price is out of this world though. More than my mortgage payment. I guess there are still people around that could and will pay that, good for them, but I don't know any. Imagine being issued this rifle going straight into a combat area, would be hard to dull it up fast enough!
Bryan 45		#2	[-]
Posts: 2593 (10/16/09 07:13 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Not on the two-way range! I would expect when you hear incoming rounds, it would be the last thing on your mind. You're right, that is a LOT of money, but it actually seems like a decent price, considering. And how in the world have they been in the US since before 1968?
RLMbassist		#3	[-]
Posts: 191 (10/16/09 08:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is rich. I sent a fwd email to my buddies about the crazy prices, and instead of hitting fwd I hit reply, and it went to Dennis Kroh! He replied saying snooze = lose. I think I'll snooze on that deal thank you!
HoosierDaddy		#4	[-]
Posts: 5544 (10/16/09 08:46 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	These aren't cheap for sure. They are one of a kind too. I can see the price being very realistic. When have you seen something like this before? Ash Iron Construction
JTB1967		#5	[-]
Posts: 775 (10/16/09 09:30 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Those are unique rifles, but not for me at that price. He does seem to be able to get above market prices on his more common items. I've got to give him points for doing a good job of using his advertising dollars wisely (sponsoring forums) and marketing his products.
eli griggs		#6	[-]
Posts: 719 (10/16/09 10:13 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Beautiful rifles and if I had the means, I wouldn't blink twice. Of course as I'm not a 'collector', it'd be at the range toot sweet. It may be that the prices are too high, given the market and economy, but desire is always a powerful motivator and coming from a trusted dealer helps too. Eli "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity". - Albert Einstein WANTED - Lee Loaders - 7.5 Swiss, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r, .303 Brit WANTED- Turkey and Goose feathers for fletching arrows
1886lebel		#7	[-]
Posts: 268 (10/16/09 10:52 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If I had the money to get one, I would buy from Dennis in a heartbeat. He is one of the best dealers out there. I have to agree that he does do a fantastic job of using his advertising dollars wisely by sponsoring forums and marketing his products. Patrick Vive La République Française, le Lebel et le poilu Verdun 1916: "Ils ne Passeront pas" "On les aura!" Fusil d'Infanterie Modèle 1886 Modifié 1893 dit "Lebel" Vive le Pinard ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfM1sFqIK0
high speed cruise		#8	[-]
Posts: 3187 (10/17/09 12:56 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If I had the cash, I'd get them all! hsc
beanstrung		#9	[-]
Posts: 5627 (10/17/09 07:25 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I didn't get the e-mail, so I'm kind of in the dark here. Could someone whose got my e-mail address forward it to me? (don't post it here) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
Chief Oshkosh	Kroh & Co.	#10	[-]
Posts: 1074 (10/17/09 07:28 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Good thing is that you can usually see what the gun looks like on his website. And I think that he does check them over pretty good. It's the next best thing to being there yourself. He roots out stuff that most of us would never find anymore. This must be a big adventure in itself. And it is your choice to pay his high prices, although he's had some items that were competitive over the years. I do think that Mr. Kroh and similar boutique dealers are partially responsible for driving up the prices across the board. The prime example is the Russian capture K98k Mausers that turned out to come over here in a deluge. He must have known that was going to happen so made a killing in the meantime. Having said that, I wish him and his wife good health as it appears that both are not in good shape.
m1 talker		#11	[-]
Posts: 7042 (10/17/09 09:54 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	What are you guys talking about? Curt
HoosierDaddy		#12	[-]
Posts: 5545 (10/17/09 10:03 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Go look at Empire Arms' website. Dennis has always been fair and very above board in customer service. I was missing the front sight assembly on an AG42B I got from him. I talked to him about a year later and sent a picture of my front sight. He sent me the part and a spare barrel as well. One of the major importers of Russian Capture (RC) K98ks was Tennessee Guns. Dennis made an arrangement with them to sort through their pile. They got their guns sorted and graded he got pick. Sounds like a good arrangement to me. To collectors it is a hobby. To the dealers it is bread on the table. Ash Iron Construction
Redd Byrd		#13	[-]
Posts: 374 (10/17/09 10:41 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dennis is more than fair and above board in fact his discriptions tend to be understated, a gentleman of the old school. Reminds me of a show at York, PA I went to some time ago and spent $350 on an all matching 1909 Brazilian Mauser not import marked w/ matching bayo in excellant condition looked to have never been issued. One does wonder how specimens like these have survived in the condition they are in.
m1 talker		#14	[-]
Posts: 7044 (10/17/09 11:50 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have gotten several old rifles that were in pristine condition and not import marked over the years. Springfield M1 Garand, Smith Corona 1903A3, Winchester U.S. model of 1917, Eddystone U. S. Model of 1917 and others of foreign manufacturer. All of the US rifles I mentioned came from the old DCM many years ago, like half a century ago and were stuck in closets and such and never used by their new owners. Then when the old guys pass away or move into retirement homes, these bang sticks are found and nobody in the family wants them and wants to get rid of them in the worst way, so they end up at gunshows or listed in the paper in the classified ads section. I also have several Mausers that were brought into this country back in the good old days of pre-1968 and they are not import stamped. Rifles in very good condition and not import marked are around, but getting harder to find as time passes, and the value of them is constantly going up and up. Curt
Aubullet		#15	[-]
Posts: 1347 (10/17/09 06:44 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Way out of my price range, but well within my drool range!!! I don't think he will have any problem at all, selling all he has fairly soon.
wsmrto		#16	[-]
Posts: 502 (10/17/09 08:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Just wish I had the $$ to get one or more, The price of any piece in such immaculate condition will only go up. Daresay, the only way you could ever find anything near it's equal would be to get it out of a passing of a family member before it goes to an estate or auction sale. The price is reasonable if you think about the near impossibility of finding such a treasure trove.
beanstrung		#17	[-]
Posts: 5632 (10/17/09 08:05 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Looks like lotsa Swede 94 & 94/14 carbines! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
Carl Gustav		#18	[-]
Posts: 3518 (10/17/09 09:04 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't get his emails. Are your referring to the Swedish Mauser carbines? Carl
maxima2		#19	[-]
Posts: 634 (10/17/09 09:09 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	1935 Brazilian Mauser (Unissued) 1935 and 1908 Brazilian Mausers Bryan 45 wrote: Wow. Just. Wow. Where does he find this stuff? Over the years of collecting I've met or corresponded with several people who bought the unissued mauser rifles by the CRATE when they were available and still have them in their vaults. One fellow I spoke with showed me several consecutive numbered Argentine 1909's in almost new condition and they were his shooters. Said he had a crate he hadn't touched yet. I got the last one of his 24/30 Venezuelan rifles. He told me the whole crate of them, except the one I got, was sporterized and sold many years ago when that was the thing to do. Talked to another fellow a while back who had several crates of the 35 Brazilian rifles and bought one as new and perfect as the day it was packed up. I suspect that he finally sold the rest due to the economy. I ended up selling that one to get one I liked more. Folks these rifles are among the finest to bear the Mauser banner and only a small number were made. My 1935 is unissued with matching test target, bayonet, sling, muzzle cap.
RLMbassist		#20	[-]
Posts: 192 (10/17/09 11:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't see the fascination with these rifles. The only thing I see exceptional is a chance to hold a genuine new Mauser, from when quality mattered & rifles were built to last; before stamped parts & wartime short cuts. They remind me of the "pristine" or polished Swede & Spanish Mausers I see at shows. Who knows how they got to look that good. For that $ I'd rather have 3 beat up Garands with a bit of real history attached. But then again, I'm a shooter, I don't have many guns in my collection that can't go to the range. One of these would have to be a wall hangar or that $1600 would drop quick once you got some wear marks on the bolt. I'd rather keep my 400yd steel plinking 98/22 that has the same features (physically, not aesthetically pleasing) and cost me $89 IIRC.