hi everyone can anyone identify this italian gun and give a $$$ value

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jak369	hi everyone can anyone identify this italian gun and give a $$$ value	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (12/13/09 09:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None
high speed cruise		#1	[-]
Posts: 3329 (12/14/09 12:32 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think there is an "Italian Forum" on this site you need to move that to. I will say it appears to have had its stock sanded.........that'll detract from the value. hsc
jak369		#2	[-]
Posts: 2 (12/14/09 05:00 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	thx
reddogge		#3	[-]
Posts: 4975 (12/14/09 08:18 AM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It looks like a Model 38 Short Rifle. It came in 6.5 Carcano and 7.35X51mm. I get the Model 38 and 1891 confused so perhaps someone that knows Italian rifles can elaborate. I owned one at one time. Can't tell from the pictures if it is in original finish. "What happened? What the HELL happened?" Jake Holman "The Sandpebbles"
JTB1967		#4	[-]
Posts: 806 (12/14/09 08:30 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I can't see enough of the rear sights to tell you the exact model.It looks like the M91 TS. I also can't tell for sure from the photo, but the finish doesn't necessarily appear refinished to me.
eb in oregon		#5	[-]
Posts: 1106 (12/14/09 08:50 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It appears to be a Carcano M38TS, but as has been said, hard to tell from the pictures. Value? Depends upon the condition of the bore, metal and stock finish. What you get from selling it is what someone is willing to pay. From the pictures it looks like something I'd like to have, however I'm a cheap sucker and most likely wouldn't offer what you want. List it on Gunbroker, with some really good pictures and see where it goes. If you have a figure in mind, place that figure as a "reserve" and watch the show. If your reserve is too high, it won't sell. Pretty simple. eb "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776
eagle7		#6	[-]
Posts: 4170 (12/14/09 06:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's a Model 1891 Carcano Special Troop carbine. Note the front sight and the adjustable rear sights....they are the clues. It has a smaller adjustable rear sight that only goes up to 1500 meters range. All the M38 and M91/38 short rifles (fusile corto) had a 300 m fixed rear sight, and the M91/24 TS carbine had the 2000m rear sight (the M91/24s were cut down rifles). The front sight is set directly on the barrel, and is NOT set on a sight base that wraps around the barrel. That feature denotes a 1897 - 1919 vintage M1891 TS carbine, not the M91/28 TS carbine, circa 1928 - 36. I don't know if the stock matches the barrel serial number, but it does have the neat side sling arrangement used by horse borne field artillery troops.