
My "bringback" 1917 Amberg Gew 98
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Spencermac |
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Ok, wow, I did not know that. How cool.. and from the barrel tip to where the bolt meets the gun, right behind the amberg 1918, is 22 and 3/4 inches. Is that
what I need to measure or should I go from tip to right in front of the amberg stuff?
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Spencermac |
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Sorry for all the kinda tedious questions, I'm really quite new to all this
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hauptspritzer |
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My philosophy is the only dumb questions are the ones never asked. How do you think I know all this neat useless stuff? A better measurement would be to the
step in front of the Amberg stuff at the step where the barrel meets the receiver, but I think that will do. A factory barrel for a k98 is 24 inches.
Considering that your rifle still has military sights on it I believe that it was a nazi rework. I forget what the length of a Gew 98 barrel was, but it was
longer than 24 inches. yours would be in the ballpark for a conversion rifle.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson
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Spencermac |
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Haha, awesome, and I must agree with that philosophy, it's like how I survive, thanks. And from tip to there is almost exactly 21 inches.
Also, why is the rifling so tight in this gun?? Any particular reason? Cause none of my other, more modern, rifles are neary as tight |
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hauptspritzer |
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The rifling I'm not sure on, but the length would certainly make it a nazi rework. IIRC there was actually two separate reworks of the Gew 98 rifles. The
first was in the 1920's after the war when the Weimar Republic was forced to pay reparations, their arsenals were gone through. Huge sums were sold to
countries like Czechoslovakia (who also got machinery and specs to make their own, hence the 98/22 and vz24) Turkey bought some too. One can still find on
occasion a Turkish Mauser that still has German markings on it. Some were converted to shotgun configuration and sold to the U.S. and the U.K. The rest were
retained and reworked. The second rework was in 1934/35 when the nazis took control of the government. They reworked them by shortening them and putting
carbine rear sights on them and turning into k98 configuration.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson
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Spencermac |
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Gotcha, wow, is there a way to figure out which mine is?
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Spencermac |
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Oh, and carbine rear sights? That the peep sight on the rear?
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Rustybore |
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To me, the mark on the extractor looks like a WWI German crown over something. I think the whole rifle was a WWI rifle converted to k98 configuration, the bolt
being bent at that time. The peep sight is a sporter peep sight added later to the rifle, probably when whoever "sporterized" it.
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hauptspritzer |
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Are you sure Rusty? To me it looks like there is two stamps. The one one the right which looks like an imperial crown and the one on the left which looks like
the bottom half of a waffenampt with the number "36" or "360" at the claw end. The numbers are tiny, but they are there. Could be wrong.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson
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These are the two closest/best pictures of the waffenampt you guys are talkin about. Hope they help.
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Rustybore |
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Great pictures. Earlier I had to use a magnifying glass on the screen to look for the numbers. I still think it is a WWI mark with the crown over it. My books
are in storage, so I can't say positively what the mark means. I just don't remember what it is called, but have seen it before. With the clearer
picture I see no resemblance to a waffenampt.
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hauptspritzer |
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Yes, I do believe you are right Rusty. In the first set of pics it looked to me like a waffen with the number 36 or 360 was between the bottom stamp and the
claw. But now that they are magnified, I can see clearly that it is an imperial crown.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson
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Spencermac |
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So any ideas about what the other symbol may be? On the last picture the bottom one. (With some imagination) the one that kinda resembles a house with a guy
standing in it...
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hauptspritzer |
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Not sure, that is the one that I thought was a waffenampt but isn't now that I can see it clearly.
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson
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Spencermac |
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Anybody know a ballpark price for a scope replicate of that era? Cause I would like to hunt with it but I don't want to ruin it's look with a modern
scope...
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