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Posts: 11573 (11/28/09 03:08 AM) Forum Site Moderator |
The thread on the movie "Mountain Men" reminded me of another film of that era I enjoyed. "Jeremiah Johnson." I would call it more
'authentic' than "Mountain Men." Scenery was every bit as awesome. wasn't it at least loosely based on the legend of "Liver
eating" Johnson?
Any othe Mountain Men movies worth noting? (or not worth for that matter?  )
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Posts: 1076 (11/28/09 04:49 AM) |
When Will Geer leads that Grizzly Bear into the cabin cackling like a lunatic, I just about had heart failure from laughing. And too, I believe that the
majority of characters were well played, especially Will Geer. His best role IMHO.
I think the movie is really based on the lives of several of the old time Mountain Men, but I can't prove it. Of course, being a Robert Redford movie (when he was in his prime) it would have had a much, much bigger budget that Heston's movie. Of the two, I prefer the "Mountain Men" just because of the interaction between Keith and Heston. That was priceless!
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Posts: 530 (11/28/09 02:21 PM) Veteran member |
Look up John "Liver Eatin' " Johnston,AKA "Crow Killer".
Yes,he film is more or less loosely based on his life. John "Pity the Man who hears the pipes and was'na born in Scotland!"
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Posts: 11578 (11/28/09 03:14 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
"Pity the Man who hears the pipes and was'na born in Scotland!"I can't remember the title, but I remember the line in a movie. "Squadron 633"? And I was'na born in Scotland, but I like the pipes! Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers |
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Posts: 5382 (11/28/09 04:55 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
Sean Connery in The Longest Day: "It takes an Irishman to play the pipes."
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Posts: 1369 (11/29/09 12:52 AM) Forum Co-host |
"And I was'na born in Scotland, but I like the pipes!"
Ditto here! To a very high degree, no less. |
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Posts: 531 (11/29/09 05:18 PM) Veteran member |
It's more directly taken from an old Allan Ladd flic,"The Red Beret".
It's spoken by the Regimental Sgt. Major. John 
"Pity the Man who hears the pipes and was'na born in Scotland!"
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Posts: 1462 (11/29/09 07:00 PM) Veteran member |
The movie is great overall, but who would even think of going West back then with a .30 caliber rifle, even if it was a genuine Hawkens. That may have been the
biggest faux pas of the movie however, and even with that I still really enjoy it. If it'd been a .40 caliber I might almost forgive them for it, but for
me I'd rather have had almost any makers (Leman, Derringer, Whitney, Demick, Golcher, Henry, etc.) .50-.60+ caliber rifle. I'm not too sure the Hawkens
ever made anything quite so small as a .30 cal in any case. A .32 cal maybe, .38 -.40 cal, probably for the local trade early on, and of course they were the
premier makers of the heavy caliber, late era Plains style rifle, which is so often referred to generically as a "Hawken" rifle almost regardless of
the maker.
Still a great movie! I do enjoy the pipes as well, but I sure don't have a good enough ear to tell whether they are being played by an Irishman or a Scotsman. |
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Posts: 5599 (11/29/09 09:37 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
I think they did make a few small caliber rifles. None as small as a .30 though. Heck my .36 is tiny enough to load as it is.
I used to be quite the student of Hawken Rifles. I've been to several museums to view originals. The big controversy is whether or not they made a flinter. None have been documented. A few are suspected but as far as I remember no documentation. I used to be a pretty heavy follower of a guy named John Baird from Montana. He published the ole "Buckskin Report" back in the late 70's and early 80's. He also wrote a couple of books on the Hawken. "Thirty years in the Hawken Lode" is one that comes to mind. John got in crossways of a fella named Allen Gotleib or whatever the guy that has the Second Amendment Foundation. He got sued and lost. John went under as the boys would say. I remember talking to him and Curly Gomstocky (North Star Arms) at Friendship for a bit. |
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Posts: 11581 (11/30/09 02:53 AM) Forum Site Moderator |
"The Red Beret" is the one I was thinking of I believe.
I remember the "Buckskin Report," but only vaguely. Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers
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Posts: 2193 (12/05/09 08:31 PM) |
Jeremiah Johnson is one of my top 3 of all time. Every once in a while, it's sure a pick-me-up from this horrid stuff they call movies these days....
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Posts: 5789 (12/06/09 11:14 AM) Forum Site Moderator
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eb in oregon wrote:Pilgrim, ever skint any Grizz? Skin that one, and I'll get you a 'nother! 
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Posts: 2195 (12/06/09 05:28 PM) |
 Not enough dirt....saw it straight off....
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Posts: 37 (12/06/09 07:44 PM) |
the best i think is the big sky. by rko pictures made in the early 50's. about a keel boat going up river to trade for furs.
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Posts: 5605 (12/06/09 09:35 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
Ever read "Big Sky"? I mought just have to give another go hoss.
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Posts: 16519 (12/08/09 04:38 PM) Owner/operator |
A lot of "Jeremiah Johnson" was filmed on Redfords's own ranch if I recall correctly. He bought a huge amount of land when he got big and famous
so he has a nice yard to play in.
Great movie, I think this thread just motivated me to watch it tonight. BTW, two brothers who were well known mountain men are direct blood relatives to me. You'd never guess who though. 
Parallax
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Posts: 5608 (12/08/09 05:10 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
I know. I didn't realize that Joe had a brother though.
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Posts: 5794 (12/08/09 08:35 PM) Forum Site Moderator
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Is one of 'em Cheapdad?
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Posts: 5795 (12/08/09 08:41 PM) Forum Site Moderator
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcsXC2xFis4 Fast-Forward to the 1:50 mark, the 2:16 mark, and the 3.04 mark.
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Posts: 5611 (12/08/09 10:32 PM) Forum Site Moderator |
Joe Meek was a famous mountain man I don't recall mention of a brother.
The most famous brother team were the Subletts. |
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Posts: 16522 (12/10/09 06:23 AM) Owner/operator |
He had several older brothers that had gone west earlier. He was the last to leave.
Parallax
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