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FN Automatic .22 Rifles

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VIS35	FN Automatic .22 Rifles	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3571 May 25 10 5:57 PM Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Here are a couple neat Browning .22 autos, as JM Browning originally designed them, in the original FN factory boxes. This is in my opinion about as small, simple and svelte as a .22 can be produced. These .22's are popularly known as the "Toploader" due to the loading port in the top of the pistol grip. Produced by FN beginning 1914. Compare to the post 1956 example in this thread. Note the loading port is moved to the right side of butt stock. Overall, the new rifle is slightly larger due to the change in stocking. http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/36971 The pair are a .22 Short and a .22 Long Rifle, serial numbers 18715 and 106747 respectively. Try as I might, I have not been able to date these. I believe certainly prior to 1956. Barrels are marked .22 short smokeless and .22 long rifle smokeless. That may aid in dating, 20's-30's perhaps? I would be greatful if any members can supply further infomation on these "Toploaders". I have Homer Tyler's two books, "Browning .22 Caliber Rifles 1914-1984" & "Browning .22 Caliber Rifles 1914-1991, © 1985 & 1991 respectively. Unfortunately he only mentions the "Toploaders" briefly. Francis VIS aka Blind Hog "Even a Blind Hog sometimes finds an acorn" Last Edited By: VIS35 May 26 10 9:44 AM. Edited 1 time.
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thedoveshooter		#1	[-]
Posts: 276 May 25 10 9:19 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Very nice!
Vladymere gr		#2	[-]
Posts: 2615 May 26 10 12:21 PM Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Francis, Again some way cool toys. As for dating I haven't a clue except to say that the rounded pistol grip style is pre WWII in my mind. I think that even in Europe around the start of WWII and post WWII pistol grips got flattened off as they are on your other cased Brownings. Any proof marks? The tower of Peron is it? over a letter? The letter under the Leige proof mark can be traced to an individual and the time frame they did inspections. Vlad Looking for Gew.88 based sporting rifles Looking for a Lyman #22 sight for the Gew.88/Mannlicher Last Edited By: Vladymere gr May 26 10 12:24 PM. Edited 1 times.
VIS35		#3	[-]
Posts: 3571 May 26 10 4:50 PM Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Eric, Thanks, you have always been my go to person for proof and date information. The top rear of both receivers bear the tower "Perron" proof and bottom of both barrels bear the Epreuve de Liège (Proof of Liège). The breech block of the .22 Short bears the markings; Lion over PV, star over E and the "Perron" mark. The breech block of the .22 LR bears the markings; Lion over PV, star over C and the "Perron" mark. Vanderlinden "FN Browning Pistols" states that "the Perron of Liège was used on pistols until 1924". Perhaps this may also be true of rifles. Also from Vanderlinden, the star over letter is an inspectors mark. He lists star over C as Louis Brenu 1924-1948 and star over E as Auguste Jamart 1924-1959. So perhaps these rifles are after 1924 up to the German occupation of the FN facilities. I do not believe any .22's were produced during the occupation. Receiver "Perron" proof: Barrel (Proof of Liège) Breech block markings, .22 LR: Breech block markings, .22 Short: Francis VIS aka Blind Hog "Even a Blind Hog sometimes finds an acorn" Last Edited By: VIS35 May 27 10 2:19 PM. Edited 1 times.
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atticus8605	22 rifles	#4	[-]
Posts: 2 Jan 8 12 2:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i just found this gun in a house , in the rafters , its the long 22 rear load and the holes in the top of the gun and it has all the same markings , its not in the best shape but its not to bad just little rust all over it , my numbers are 142113 ? so the year is about maybe 1924 to 1950 s ? and do you no what there worth ?
eb in oregon		#5	[-]
Posts: 2473 Jan 8 12 5:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Francis, Where the hell do you find all these nice things!?!?!?! eb "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776
atticus8605		#6	[-]
Posts: 2 Jan 9 12 6:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i found it in a house , it was in the rafters
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